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shv_luffy98
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shitty nationalism in play again.. disappointing.. it's sad to see soo many readable novels become trash and soo hard to read just cuz they want to praise their country by insulting other countries

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The Great Genetic Era

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tmp4522
tmp4522Lv14tmp4522

I have seen plenty worse, tbh. But you're not wrong.

GrandpaPeng
GrandpaPengLv4GrandpaPeng

It's getting harder and harder to find chinese novels that do not promote Social Credit System, gene modification, DNA modification, chip, system, Face Scanning System, total invigilation etc. These things are coming to USA and EU so by promoting such novels to western audience they're taming you to accept these when they hit your lives. I mean, which kid wouldn't want to be a GMO-human with modified mRNA, DNA, artifical heart, artifical eyes, getting taken care of by communist government etc.

DemonizedDemon
DemonizedDemonLv4DemonizedDemon

But this is going to be inevitable in the future. Everyone wants better security and health. For security, machines can do so many things humans cannot: instantly recognizing a criminal's face, easily detecting dangerous objects, faster communication to local authorities when an emergency happens, etc. For health, who doesn't want to live a longer life? Who doesn't want to be free of diseases? Who doesn't want to become stronger and smarter? You can last longer too, if you know what I mean. To do all of that, the best way would be genetic modification and natural evolution, which were both mentioned in the story. All in all, this isn't really a problem with the ideas propagated in Chinese light novels, it's the future direction humans would most likely take.

GrandpaPeng:It's getting harder and harder to find chinese novels that do not promote Social Credit System, gene modification, DNA modification, chip, system, Face Scanning System, total invigilation etc. These things are coming to USA and EU so by promoting such novels to western audience they're taming you to accept these when they hit your lives. I mean, which kid wouldn't want to be a GMO-human with modified mRNA, DNA, artifical heart, artifical eyes, getting taken care of by communist government etc.
TurtleOfRainbow
TurtleOfRainbowLv14TurtleOfRainbow

You miss the point behind it though. It is meant to control the people. If you can modify genes so drastically and easily, how easy would it be to control people? "If theres a set of genes that make someone live longer, then removing it makes you die quicker, so you better not disobey the government!" It is an inevitable future, but if they can modify your genes with something, who is stopping the government from doing something else during the surgery/treatment? And the modification would absolutely be government run. No sane government would let that be uncontrolled.

DemonizedDemon:But this is going to be inevitable in the future. Everyone wants better security and health. For security, machines can do so many things humans cannot: instantly recognizing a criminal's face, easily detecting dangerous objects, faster communication to local authorities when an emergency happens, etc. For health, who doesn't want to live a longer life? Who doesn't want to be free of diseases? Who doesn't want to become stronger and smarter? You can last longer too, if you know what I mean. To do all of that, the best way would be genetic modification and natural evolution, which were both mentioned in the story. All in all, this isn't really a problem with the ideas propagated in Chinese light novels, it's the future direction humans would most likely take.
AndrewHunt42
AndrewHunt42Lv5AndrewHunt42

I'm assuming you're young because you're making a completely nonsensical argument. The way for governments to control people is to influence their thought. Threats may be used for individuals but are not effective, at least in the long term, when used broadly because when they can't completely control a citizen's thought, it leads to dissension. The government threatening its citizens using some genetic treatment in a democratic country is unbelievably stupid because if enough people don't like it, they can vote out the people in power. Now in Dictatorships or governments where all the power is concentrated in the hands of the few, maybe they'll implement this. However, it's still highly inefficient as there are better alternatives. Also, it's doubtful that gene modifications would be government-run in the short term. The covid vaccines, for example, although they don't really mess with your genes, were still halfway there with the use of mRNA. Independent companies are researching other gene treatments and cures. Some are even available to people now. Once the technology becomes more saturated, I'm sure there will be solid regulations but not government-run, at least in the west. There are definitely potential downsides. Unlike, for example, AI, there really isn't a necessity for this. We also may excessively use this technology prematurely, which could have disastrous long-term effects as we still don't know much about the human body. A species of designer humans may be a bad thing, and class differences could, for the first time in history, not just be political or economic but genetic. But even then, the benefits of genetic technologies far outway the cost. We could eliminate disease and congenital defects. Create a healthier, smarter, and stronger human race easily able to adapt to whatever environment they are in, whether it be space or another planet.

TurtleOfRainbow:You miss the point behind it though. It is meant to control the people. If you can modify genes so drastically and easily, how easy would it be to control people? "If theres a set of genes that make someone live longer, then removing it makes you die quicker, so you better not disobey the government!" It is an inevitable future, but if they can modify your genes with something, who is stopping the government from doing something else during the surgery/treatment? And the modification would absolutely be government run. No sane government would let that be uncontrolled.
DemonizedDemon
DemonizedDemonLv4DemonizedDemon

That's reality. Everyone wants better technological, medical, and societal advancement. Of course there is going to be consequences, like everything else in the world. It's just the conflict of the distribution of benefits. People benefit more, government loses more, vice versa. In the event that both decides to work together, someone is going to take the rap and receive less benefits.

TurtleOfRainbow:You miss the point behind it though. It is meant to control the people. If you can modify genes so drastically and easily, how easy would it be to control people? "If theres a set of genes that make someone live longer, then removing it makes you die quicker, so you better not disobey the government!" It is an inevitable future, but if they can modify your genes with something, who is stopping the government from doing something else during the surgery/treatment? And the modification would absolutely be government run. No sane government would let that be uncontrolled.
TurtleOfRainbow
TurtleOfRainbowLv14TurtleOfRainbow

Yes, but when enhanced people are the norm, who is going to say no to getting them? If person 1 has enhanced stamina recovery and efficient energy usage, but person 2 doesnt, then person 1 is more likely to be hired no matter what if they have similar backgrounds and resumes. It then becomes an economic issue with job fluectuation. Then the solution, getting the enhancement, is pushed. The use of suppression of negativity is already used in place like russia and china, how much easier would that be if people relied on the government for their lives? Not even just adding a tracking chip or something else. Just influencing them to be supportive of the government would be effective. Brainwashing and subliminal messaging is already a thing, so people practically giving themselves for it would make it even easier. It wouldnt be difficult for some politician to suddenly gain immense power because of such an idea. The only downside for the controller is money, which would be easy to earn back with so much support. I mean, look at the russian oligarchy. They are some of the richest, thanks to the ease of support from the masses, which are so easily swayed due to controlled media. They dont even have the technology to control the masses as easily as it would be, yet it has been showing its effectiveness for years.

AndrewHunt42:I'm assuming you're young because you're making a completely nonsensical argument. The way for governments to control people is to influence their thought. Threats may be used for individuals but are not effective, at least in the long term, when used broadly because when they can't completely control a citizen's thought, it leads to dissension. The government threatening its citizens using some genetic treatment in a democratic country is unbelievably stupid because if enough people don't like it, they can vote out the people in power. Now in Dictatorships or governments where all the power is concentrated in the hands of the few, maybe they'll implement this. However, it's still highly inefficient as there are better alternatives. Also, it's doubtful that gene modifications would be government-run in the short term. The covid vaccines, for example, although they don't really mess with your genes, were still halfway there with the use of mRNA. Independent companies are researching other gene treatments and cures. Some are even available to people now. Once the technology becomes more saturated, I'm sure there will be solid regulations but not government-run, at least in the west. There are definitely potential downsides. Unlike, for example, AI, there really isn't a necessity for this. We also may excessively use this technology prematurely, which could have disastrous long-term effects as we still don't know much about the human body. A species of designer humans may be a bad thing, and class differences could, for the first time in history, not just be political or economic but genetic. But even then, the benefits of genetic technologies far outway the cost. We could eliminate disease and congenital defects. Create a healthier, smarter, and stronger human race easily able to adapt to whatever environment they are in, whether it be space or another planet.
DemonizedDemon
DemonizedDemonLv4DemonizedDemon

For the first matter of enhanced people, it is what it is unfortunately. The people who are enhanced will better survive and those who are not, will not. After all you can't fault people for wanting to be enhanced and you can't fault people for choosing a better choice of workforce. On the matter of enhancing, it is unlikely for people to keep it from the masses since it would lead to better human workforce overall, which means more profit. On the matter of brainwashing from media, well, nothing can be kept silent forever. Maybe for a few centuries or so, but someone will definitely stop that practice. It already happened in America, whats to say about other countries. The last matter of people working together with the government will make the top much richer than what it benefits the common people using the manipulation of media, this is what happens in cooperation. I never said it had to be voluntary. This is an example of manipulated cooperation, something we see in our everyday lives, the selling of goods, employers and employees, the lack of knowledge will always be there and the ignorant person will always be taken advantage of. The example in Russia is a much more extreme case whereas mine is very shallow.

TurtleOfRainbow:Yes, but when enhanced people are the norm, who is going to say no to getting them? If person 1 has enhanced stamina recovery and efficient energy usage, but person 2 doesnt, then person 1 is more likely to be hired no matter what if they have similar backgrounds and resumes. It then becomes an economic issue with job fluectuation. Then the solution, getting the enhancement, is pushed. The use of suppression of negativity is already used in place like russia and china, how much easier would that be if people relied on the government for their lives? Not even just adding a tracking chip or something else. Just influencing them to be supportive of the government would be effective. Brainwashing and subliminal messaging is already a thing, so people practically giving themselves for it would make it even easier. It wouldnt be difficult for some politician to suddenly gain immense power because of such an idea. The only downside for the controller is money, which would be easy to earn back with so much support. I mean, look at the russian oligarchy. They are some of the richest, thanks to the ease of support from the masses, which are so easily swayed due to controlled media. They dont even have the technology to control the masses as easily as it would be, yet it has been showing its effectiveness for years.
Strawberryhouse
StrawberryhouseLv3Strawberryhouse

doesn't solo leveling do this tho?

Sergeant_Joe
Sergeant_JoeLv14Sergeant_Joe

It's only going to be inevitable if you thinm it's going to be inevitable. You surrendered even before pushing back to the consequences of such technologies.

DemonizedDemon:But this is going to be inevitable in the future. Everyone wants better security and health. For security, machines can do so many things humans cannot: instantly recognizing a criminal's face, easily detecting dangerous objects, faster communication to local authorities when an emergency happens, etc. For health, who doesn't want to live a longer life? Who doesn't want to be free of diseases? Who doesn't want to become stronger and smarter? You can last longer too, if you know what I mean. To do all of that, the best way would be genetic modification and natural evolution, which were both mentioned in the story. All in all, this isn't really a problem with the ideas propagated in Chinese light novels, it's the future direction humans would most likely take.