Review Detail of Kiradeux in Meta Essence Gacha in Marvel
Review detail
Things were fairly enjoyable until the author decided to go down the psychopath power collection route instead of progressive gacha gain. Feels like a huge waste of potential, but the MC just feels like discount All For One now. The decision effectively threw the entire context of the story and threw it in the trash - Meta Essence no longer required, Gacha is a write off since he easily steals whatever power he wants and is thus easily ignored in the plot, heck, they're not even in Marvel anymore! If you like the common power collection stories where the MC runs around stealing everyone's powers so fast that he could never train them all, then this story is better than average in the category.
Meta Essence Gacha in Marvel
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I know the author's already addressed this, but gacha is more than just the ability of power manipulation. The title of the story literally tells you what to expect. It could be summons, items, and odd abilities from the omniverse. There are truly no limits. Wanting to acquire a little extra power and not putting all your eggs in one gacha basket does not make a great mc. Exploiting the tools available and having it make sense does.
My review was twofold here, first was the explanation that the story effectively ceases to be about 1/3 of it's title early on. Second was that the MC becomes a generic power collection psychopath - and a lot of people already dislike regular power collection, let alone AllForOne ripoffs. Seriously, there's a reason characters like Sylar and AllForOne are usually villains instead of the protagonist - some people might like it, but my review is intended to forewarn readers who do not.
Lol_2050:So you want the mc to completely rely on something as unreliable as gacha? And ignore easy powerups with no downside??? Like seriously, you can’t be THAT stupid
Well your review did seem like you want the mc to solely focus on the gacha system, which is just foolish. Sorry for the misconception.
Kiradeux:My review was twofold here, first was the explanation that the story effectively ceases to be about 1/3 of it's title early on. Second was that the MC becomes a generic power collection psychopath - and a lot of people already dislike regular power collection, let alone AllForOne ripoffs. Seriously, there's a reason characters like Sylar and AllForOne are usually villains instead of the protagonist - some people might like it, but my review is intended to forewarn readers who do not.
And honestly the whole powercolection stuff is something everyone with a brain would do. He is in marvel. He needs every power he can get. There are entitys capable of thinking him out of existing. If the mc in a marvel ff doesn’t seek power, he is a complete idiot
Kiradeux:My review was twofold here, first was the explanation that the story effectively ceases to be about 1/3 of it's title early on. Second was that the MC becomes a generic power collection psychopath - and a lot of people already dislike regular power collection, let alone AllForOne ripoffs. Seriously, there's a reason characters like Sylar and AllForOne are usually villains instead of the protagonist - some people might like it, but my review is intended to forewarn readers who do not.
Misconception is entirely my fault, I was kinda irritated when I wrote the review, so it does come across that way to some extent - though for a reason. The Gacha had been more than kind, JUST giving several extremely overpowered characters who could technically dominate the MHA world single-handedly, immediately before he basically forgot about them to go collecting powers and not actually doing what they could do. Seriously wanted to see him using those abilities.
Lol_2050:Well your review did seem like you want the mc to solely focus on the gacha system, which is just foolish. Sorry for the misconception.
Hmm that’s true. Maybe 3-4 chapters Training his gacha abilities before getting new ones would be perfect
Kiradeux:Misconception is entirely my fault, I was kinda irritated when I wrote the review, so it does come across that way to some extent - though for a reason. The Gacha had been more than kind, JUST giving several extremely overpowered characters who could technically dominate the MHA world single-handedly, immediately before he basically forgot about them to go collecting powers and not actually doing what they could do. Seriously wanted to see him using those abilities.
Power Collection needs to go hand-in-hand with training. Taking one power after another without acclimating to any and letting some of the most powerful abilities fall to the wayside (Seriously, Starkiller could easily have potential against Galactus according to lore) and be forgotten for arguably weaker abilities is just stupid.
Lol_2050:And honestly the whole powercolection stuff is something everyone with a brain would do. He is in marvel. He needs every power he can get. There are entitys capable of thinking him out of existing. If the mc in a marvel ff doesn’t seek power, he is a complete idiot
You are absolutely right, I’m not arguing with you here. My point is, if you can easily gain powerful and useful abilities, why wouldn’t you want to have them? And yeah, I’m a bit disappointed about starkiller, but in the grand scheme of things, he weak (as far as I know).
Kiradeux:Power Collection needs to go hand-in-hand with training. Taking one power after another without acclimating to any and letting some of the most powerful abilities fall to the wayside (Seriously, Starkiller could easily have potential against Galactus according to lore) and be forgotten for arguably weaker abilities is just stupid.
Starkiller? Weak? Maybe my memory is just completely messed up, as it's been years since I played the games, but... Through the force, Starkiller was able to simultaneously manipulate an entire fleet of ships, destroy their engines and thrust them out of a gravity well without breaking a sweat. If memory serves, in a gameplay cinematic he did it with a Super Star Destroyer while still learning to control his abilities. Depending on the incarnation of the MCU, Galactus is between 1/3 the size of a Super Star Destroyer, and 30x the size of the Earth. True, he might not be able to hold of Galactus on his own, but do you honestly think any of the MHA quirks compare to that? As for getting useful abilities, yeah, I honestly don't see an issue collecting them as you go along, but it all falls back to him having no idea how to use anything he has. The way he goes about it is psychopathic, sociopathic, and megalomaniacal; it surgically strips away any sympathy I might have for the character, while not changing his position at all in the grand scheme - seriously, if you had all the powers of every MHA character combined you could still be snapped out of existence by the Silver Surfer, let alone the real big shots. The Force would at least put up a fight.
Lol_2050:You are absolutely right, I’m not arguing with you here. My point is, if you can easily gain powerful and useful abilities, why wouldn’t you want to have them? And yeah, I’m a bit disappointed about starkiller, but in the grand scheme of things, he weak (as far as I know).
And doesn’t galactus literally eat planets? I dont really know what starkiller could even hope to do against him.
Kiradeux:Starkiller? Weak? Maybe my memory is just completely messed up, as it's been years since I played the games, but... Through the force, Starkiller was able to simultaneously manipulate an entire fleet of ships, destroy their engines and thrust them out of a gravity well without breaking a sweat. If memory serves, in a gameplay cinematic he did it with a Super Star Destroyer while still learning to control his abilities. Depending on the incarnation of the MCU, Galactus is between 1/3 the size of a Super Star Destroyer, and 30x the size of the Earth. True, he might not be able to hold of Galactus on his own, but do you honestly think any of the MHA quirks compare to that? As for getting useful abilities, yeah, I honestly don't see an issue collecting them as you go along, but it all falls back to him having no idea how to use anything he has. The way he goes about it is psychopathic, sociopathic, and megalomaniacal; it surgically strips away any sympathy I might have for the character, while not changing his position at all in the grand scheme - seriously, if you had all the powers of every MHA character combined you could still be snapped out of existence by the Silver Surfer, let alone the real big shots. The Force would at least put up a fight.
Well, even without going into the theorycrafting between the similarities between the Force and the Power Cosmic that saturates Galactus' body uncontrolled, there's still quite a lot. Different incarnations of Galactus have different weaknesses, in one of the marvel universes he's just a stupid giant ball that is weak to static electric discharge (Force Lightning). In most incarnations of Galactus however, his equipment is his weakpoint, holding items that are of utmost importance and, most notably could be easily stolen by a force user of Starkiller's power. In fact, luckily acquiring those items is usually how the F4 wins when they run into him. There's plenty of theorycrafting that expands beyond that which could indicate massive advantages the Force would have over cosmic beings given that it is a similar energy to their own source of power, blah blah blah, but even without that, consider the fact that the feats of strength Starkiller has done - even moving a single super star destroy out of a planet's gravity well - are comparable to the energy of a sustained nuclear blast - how do any of the powers he collects compare to that?
Lol_2050:And doesn’t galactus literally eat planets? I dont really know what starkiller could even hope to do against him.
And I don’t know if you think the force as a power is comparable to cosmic entities, please think again. Cosmic entities are god like existences, even in marvel.
Kiradeux:Well, even without going into the theorycrafting between the similarities between the Force and the Power Cosmic that saturates Galactus' body uncontrolled, there's still quite a lot. Different incarnations of Galactus have different weaknesses, in one of the marvel universes he's just a stupid giant ball that is weak to static electric discharge (Force Lightning). In most incarnations of Galactus however, his equipment is his weakpoint, holding items that are of utmost importance and, most notably could be easily stolen by a force user of Starkiller's power. In fact, luckily acquiring those items is usually how the F4 wins when they run into him. There's plenty of theorycrafting that expands beyond that which could indicate massive advantages the Force would have over cosmic beings given that it is a similar energy to their own source of power, blah blah blah, but even without that, consider the fact that the feats of strength Starkiller has done - even moving a single super star destroy out of a planet's gravity well - are comparable to the energy of a sustained nuclear blast - how do any of the powers he collects compare to that?
I understand he didn't need to take the power in MHA to get stronger, but if he didn't do that what would he do in MHA??? would you be walking with the characters of the plot, or picking up women? at least he did the most logical thing which is to seek power, and he's not totally evil, he just did things for his survival, in the end he even helps MHA society, and Starkiller sure is strong, but he doesn't defeat Galactus no bro, Galactus is very strong, "a but there's so much version of him that he's weak" yes, there's a version of spider man who is a pig, but if it were you in the marvel universe, you would say "a it's okay, this one Galactus of this universe is weak" if yes you are stupid, and better prepare for the worst, it's also Galactus not even the worst.
Kiradeux:Starkiller? Weak? Maybe my memory is just completely messed up, as it's been years since I played the games, but... Through the force, Starkiller was able to simultaneously manipulate an entire fleet of ships, destroy their engines and thrust them out of a gravity well without breaking a sweat. If memory serves, in a gameplay cinematic he did it with a Super Star Destroyer while still learning to control his abilities. Depending on the incarnation of the MCU, Galactus is between 1/3 the size of a Super Star Destroyer, and 30x the size of the Earth. True, he might not be able to hold of Galactus on his own, but do you honestly think any of the MHA quirks compare to that? As for getting useful abilities, yeah, I honestly don't see an issue collecting them as you go along, but it all falls back to him having no idea how to use anything he has. The way he goes about it is psychopathic, sociopathic, and megalomaniacal; it surgically strips away any sympathy I might have for the character, while not changing his position at all in the grand scheme - seriously, if you had all the powers of every MHA character combined you could still be snapped out of existence by the Silver Surfer, let alone the real big shots. The Force would at least put up a fight.
Kiradeux:My review was twofold here, first was the explanation that the story effectively ceases to be about 1/3 of it's title early on. Second was that the MC becomes a generic power collection psychopath - and a lot of people already dislike regular power collection, let alone AllForOne ripoffs. Seriously, there's a reason characters like Sylar and AllForOne are usually villains instead of the protagonist - some people might like it, but my review is intended to forewarn readers who do not.
If this was real life and the mc did go to BNHA then yeah, it would be logical to go for a more easy and reliable route to get powerups, but this was intentionally done by the author thus making a huge part of the gacha system unnecessary. If he was going to go that route, then he/she shouldn't have made it a 'Gacha' story in the first place and just made the title 'All-For-One Knockoff SI'
Lol_2050:Well your review did seem like you want the mc to solely focus on the gacha system, which is just foolish. Sorry for the misconception.
In those parts you are wrong, if after finishing BNHA he continued to use exclusively the collection of powers, he would agree with you, but after returning to Marvel he uses the gacha again and you can see that although he still uses the collection of powers it is not what defines the character. My point is, power collecting was very useful in BNHA but it didn't become the main thing coming back to Marvel and was rarely used to collect power stuff.
AuthoriTet:If this was real life and the mc did go to BNHA then yeah, it would be logical to go for a more easy and reliable route to get powerups, but this was intentionally done by the author thus making a huge part of the gacha system unnecessary. If he was going to go that route, then he/she shouldn't have made it a 'Gacha' story in the first place and just made the title 'All-For-One Knockoff SI'