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St_Pat
St_PatLv32yrSt_Pat

This fanfic is tagged wrong. This fanfic has no Anti hero development in story and the character of the MC is exactly opposite. If anyone wants to read this fanfic due to its ‘Anti-Hero’ tag, then don’t even bother to read it. I was attracted to this fanfic because of its Anti hero tag and it being Bleach fanfic which is rare, but i had to drop reading this fanfic because there is nothing Antihero in this fanfic. MC is too much of a ‘Good Boy’.

Reborn in bleach as a hollow with a system

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Yunick
YunickLv5Yunick

the problem is you aren't an anti-hero and the author is trying to make the mc an anti-hero

Sphnqs:I think it's more of oh I'm in an anime world and why not save her. if I was in his shoes I'd prolly save her as well just bc she ichigos mom not any other reason
Prognastat
PrognastatAuthorPrognastat

Lol hero murders people and saves all of one person that isn’t dorectlt related to him. Let’s a family go through the groef of losing a loved one to protect himself and his own family. He also doesn’t mind emotionally and psychologically manipulating a woman people for the same reasons. I think what you’re looking for isn’t an anti-hero but a straight villain. Anti-heroes are still heroes and do good. MC barely even qualifies for that.

Yunick
YunickLv5Yunick

an anti hero would not have saved ichigo mom for no reason so yeah he isn´t even close to be an anti hero he is a softie well you are and you try to make excuses for the mc being a softie. You even created mission for that more excuses.

Prognastat:Lol hero murders people and saves all of one person that isn’t dorectlt related to him. Let’s a family go through the groef of losing a loved one to protect himself and his own family. He also doesn’t mind emotionally and psychologically manipulating a woman people for the same reasons. I think what you’re looking for isn’t an anti-hero but a straight villain. Anti-heroes are still heroes and do good. MC barely even qualifies for that.
Prognastat
PrognastatAuthorPrognastat

You are grossly mistaken about what anti-hero means.

Yunick:an anti hero would not have saved ichigo mom for no reason so yeah he isn´t even close to be an anti hero he is a softie well you are and you try to make excuses for the mc being a softie. You even created mission for that more excuses.
Yunick
YunickLv5Yunick

he don´t know her and he even don´t live in the same city... with that mindset i should save paul walker too if i travel back in time?(the actor of fast and furious) the same circumstances, the mc is a tsundere at best like bakugo from mha

Prognastat:You are grossly mistaken about what anti-hero means.
Venerable_Of_Stars
Venerable_Of_StarsLv12Venerable_Of_Stars

An antihero or antiheroine is a main character in a story who lacks conventional heroic qualities and attributes, such as idealism, courage, and morality.Although antiheroes may sometimes perform actions that are morally correct, it is not always for the right reasons, often acting primarily out of self-interest. This is from Wikipedia

Prognastat:You are grossly mistaken about what anti-hero means.
Venerable_Of_Stars
Venerable_Of_StarsLv12Venerable_Of_Stars

if only i seen this review before i wouldn't have read such a tras# novel

Prognastat
PrognastatAuthorPrognastat

The thing that distinguishes them from a villain though is that they are still a hero. Otherwise we would just call them villains/evil. It's a hero that lacks many of the conventional heroic qualities/morals. A good example is the Punisher. He is an anti-hero, but he is still a hero. He just doesn't hesitate to use unheroic methods. Blade is also an anti-hero, he still kills the bad guys though.

Venerable_Of_Stars:An antihero or antiheroine is a main character in a story who lacks conventional heroic qualities and attributes, such as idealism, courage, and morality.Although antiheroes may sometimes perform actions that are morally correct, it is not always for the right reasons, often acting primarily out of self-interest. This is from Wikipedia
Prognastat
PrognastatAuthorPrognastat

Then start looking for villain tags not anti-hero tags.

Venerable_Of_Stars:if only i seen this review before i wouldn't have read such a tras# novel
MightBeGay
MightBeGayLv15MightBeGay

An anti-hero would exactly do what the mc did and save ichigo and his mother, first of all keeping the original plotline so that he could profit from it and second doing something that directly helps his sister and makes the original mc ichigo indebted to him. Hes an anti-hero not a villan, usually antiheroes have "redeeming" qualities like their love for their family think punisher

Yunick:he don´t know her and he even don´t live in the same city... with that mindset i should save paul walker too if i travel back in time?(the actor of fast and furious) the same circumstances, the mc is a tsundere at best like bakugo from mha
Prognastat
PrognastatAuthorPrognastat

Also glad you found a novel to perfectly match yourself here.

Venerable_Of_Stars:if only i seen this review before i wouldn't have read such a tras# novel
Shira_ori
Shira_oriLv14Shira_ori

I agree with you, this person was clearly looking for villain mc’s but obviously can’t tell the difference between villain and anti-hero, your mc the has ghd qualities of an anti-hero as everything he does is out of self interest or for his family he hasn’t once saved a random stranger on the side of the road but he still kills bad people.

Prognastat:Lol hero murders people and saves all of one person that isn’t dorectlt related to him. Let’s a family go through the groef of losing a loved one to protect himself and his own family. He also doesn’t mind emotionally and psychologically manipulating a woman people for the same reasons. I think what you’re looking for isn’t an anti-hero but a straight villain. Anti-heroes are still heroes and do good. MC barely even qualifies for that.
Yunick
YunickLv5Yunick

more excuses and a hero would do it too, saving her is too risky he may change the plotline and too little benefit only a hero risk too much and the only reason his plan worked is because the author plot armor a lot of things can go wrong she just can call them for phone and even if isshin lost his powers he can ask urahara for help or maybe ishida father. people seems to think he is an anti hero only because he is a hollow and in part is true after all great part of being an anti hero is how people think of you. and the sister part well no one cares about her honestly people read fanfics because they like the original characters, no one cares for the oc's besides the mc

MightBeGay:An anti-hero would exactly do what the mc did and save ichigo and his mother, first of all keeping the original plotline so that he could profit from it and second doing something that directly helps his sister and makes the original mc ichigo indebted to him. Hes an anti-hero not a villan, usually antiheroes have "redeeming" qualities like their love for their family think punisher
Prognastat
PrognastatAuthorPrognastat

No he is an anti-hero because he lies, kills, manipulates, schemes and if he had to would be willing to steal to achieve his goals. All unheroic qualities. I’m not sure how hard it is to understand. Maybe an analogy will help. Imagine a police officer who for this sake is not an immoral one. He follows the law to catch criminals, but rather than taking the place of jury and executioner he protects people and just arrests the criminal and let’s the law handle the punishment. He also leaves open a path for redemption. He would be what a hero is. Then there is the vigilante, he also protects and saves people. However he doesn’t care to do that in a heroic way. If he can manipulate the criminal into a trap and kill him with a bomb or poison. He just wants the villain dead no matter what. This is an anti-hero. Then finally there is the criminal themselves. They don’t want to help or protect anyone and will harm others either for their own benefit or even without benefit simply because they enjoy it. These are villains.

Yunick:more excuses and a hero would do it too, saving her is too risky he may change the plotline and too little benefit only a hero risk too much and the only reason his plan worked is because the author plot armor a lot of things can go wrong she just can call them for phone and even if isshin lost his powers he can ask urahara for help or maybe ishida father. people seems to think he is an anti hero only because he is a hollow and in part is true after all great part of being an anti hero is how people think of you. and the sister part well no one cares about her honestly people read fanfics because they like the original characters, no one cares for the oc's besides the mc
St_Pat
St_PatLv3St_Pat

You can always check in the dictionaries, the meaning of words which you don’t understand or you may have misunderstood. You can’t just change the meanings of words for your morals or principles sake. Just use the right words.

Shira_ori:I agree with you, this person was clearly looking for villain mc’s but obviously can’t tell the difference between villain and anti-hero, your mc the has ghd qualities of an anti-hero as everything he does is out of self interest or for his family he hasn’t once saved a random stranger on the side of the road but he still kills bad people.
Yunick
YunickLv5Yunick

basically you are saying if he kills-anti hero no killing-hero pretty stupid honestly even superman killed some times even batman is an anti-hero then he is the most sheming hero, besides most heros are acting against the law. the problem is casued by bad writing honestly the mc personallity is inconsitent some times.

Prognastat:No he is an anti-hero because he lies, kills, manipulates, schemes and if he had to would be willing to steal to achieve his goals. All unheroic qualities. I’m not sure how hard it is to understand. Maybe an analogy will help. Imagine a police officer who for this sake is not an immoral one. He follows the law to catch criminals, but rather than taking the place of jury and executioner he protects people and just arrests the criminal and let’s the law handle the punishment. He also leaves open a path for redemption. He would be what a hero is. Then there is the vigilante, he also protects and saves people. However he doesn’t care to do that in a heroic way. If he can manipulate the criminal into a trap and kill him with a bomb or poison. He just wants the villain dead no matter what. This is an anti-hero. Then finally there is the criminal themselves. They don’t want to help or protect anyone and will harm others either for their own benefit or even without benefit simply because they enjoy it. These are villains.
St_Pat
St_PatLv3St_Pat

This is THE meaning of ‘Anti-Hero’. Please check this comment Author.

Venerable_Of_Stars:An antihero or antiheroine is a main character in a story who lacks conventional heroic qualities and attributes, such as idealism, courage, and morality.Although antiheroes may sometimes perform actions that are morally correct, it is not always for the right reasons, often acting primarily out of self-interest. This is from Wikipedia
Shira_ori
Shira_oriLv14Shira_ori

I understand what an anti-hero is, an anti-hero is still a hero although they they lack some of the aspects of other heros for example morality or courage, their actions are ultimately good but they don’t always do it for the best reasons, the mc of this story is doing everything to protect his family he has little care for others, saving masaki gave him a teacher for his sister and still allowed canon to happen thus being the safest option as he can remember what happens in canon and his sister can protect herself. So don’t try to comd at me when you are the one who doesn’t understand the meaning of anti-hero, as i said before if you want a mc who doesn’t care about anything or anyone then you are looking for villain mc’s.

St_Pat:You can always check in the dictionaries, the meaning of words which you don’t understand or you may have misunderstood. You can’t just change the meanings of words for your morals or principles sake. Just use the right words.
Prognastat
PrognastatAuthorPrognastat

Well you have to clarify which iterations of those comic book heroes. In some iterations they are heroes, others anti-heroes and some even villains. As for most of the time both are heroes. Superman barely ever kills intentionally and in most iterations batman doesn't either. Of course all of this is on a gradient. There isn't a clear defined line between Hero > Anti-Hero > Villain. However yes, willingness to kill is something that generally makes a character not a general hero and makes them either an anti-hero or villain. To really end this discussion I have clarified how I see what makes a hero and anti-hero different and why I feel that warrants the tag. You have yet to state what makes you think they are different since that is the crux of the matter. So instead of being a little b and trying to argue against my opinion which I'm comfortable with how about you make your case for once? And no saving people doesn't make one a hero. Anti-Heroes, non aligned protagonists and in some cases even Villains save people so no that isn't it.

Yunick:basically you are saying if he kills-anti hero no killing-hero pretty stupid honestly even superman killed some times even batman is an anti-hero then he is the most sheming hero, besides most heros are acting against the law. the problem is casued by bad writing honestly the mc personallity is inconsitent some times.
InGlorious
InGloriousLv4InGlorious

Well I don't know if this will help the others or not but I will still put down this comment. I have been writing from a year and I have some knowledge about the topic being discussed here. An anti-hero is still a hero but whenever he does something heroic he would have some self-interest involved there. He is doing a noble deed but he has his own agenda. An anti-hero would also lack the attributes of a traditional hero. It could be either the lack of courage or morality. Several other factors could be also involved here. But Anti-hero category is very broad. Heroes like Batman come under this category and even our favorite Deadpool also comes under this category. Even Magneto who wants to cause mass genocide and kill off all the normal humans also come under this category and someone like Tony Stark is also an anti-hero. Now, what I think, the other readers are probably looking for chaotic neutral or neutral evil MC

Prognastat:Well you have to clarify which iterations of those comic book heroes. In some iterations they are heroes, others anti-heroes and some even villains. As for most of the time both are heroes. Superman barely ever kills intentionally and in most iterations batman doesn't either. Of course all of this is on a gradient. There isn't a clear defined line between Hero > Anti-Hero > Villain. However yes, willingness to kill is something that generally makes a character not a general hero and makes them either an anti-hero or villain. To really end this discussion I have clarified how I see what makes a hero and anti-hero different and why I feel that warrants the tag. You have yet to state what makes you think they are different since that is the crux of the matter. So instead of being a little b and trying to argue against my opinion which I'm comfortable with how about you make your case for once? And no saving people doesn't make one a hero. Anti-Heroes, non aligned protagonists and in some cases even Villains save people so no that isn't it.
InGlorious
InGloriousLv4InGlorious

Well I don't know if this will help the others or not but I will still put down this comment. I have been writing from a year and I have some knowledge about the topic being discussed here. An anti-hero is still a hero but whenever he does something heroic he would have some self-interest involved there. He is doing a noble deed but he has his own agenda. An anti-hero would also lack the attributes of a traditional hero. It could be either the lack of courage or morality. Several other factors could be also involved here. But Anti-hero category is very broad. Heroes like Batman come under this category and even our favorite Deadpool also comes under this category. Even Magneto who wants to cause mass genocide and kill off all the normal humans also come under this category and someone like Tony Stark is also an anti-hero. Now, what I think, the other readers are probably looking for chaotic neutral or neutral evil MC

Yunick:basically you are saying if he kills-anti hero no killing-hero pretty stupid honestly even superman killed some times even batman is an anti-hero then he is the most sheming hero, besides most heros are acting against the law. the problem is casued by bad writing honestly the mc personallity is inconsitent some times.