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Daoist_Dan
Daoist_DanLv106yrDaoist_Dan

Don't let my total score fool you, I would've given it a 0 if I let my my emotions control me. I managed to get 33 chapters in and it does have some very minor likable aspects, but mostly it's your generic anti-hero story. And that's its only redeeming quality as far as I'm concerned, everything else was trash. For example, he kills, but never the good guys. He'll mope and deny being a good person while going out of his way to save even the most ambiguously good characters. You'd assume a person who became some kind of God of Assassins wouldn't be super moral, but whatever... It's a story that got its toes wet in the anti-hero genre but wasn't willing to commit. The problems are not always that obvious though, the author tries to be clever sometimes and does things like twisting the mc wearing a mask into some kind of tactic to inspire fear in his enemies(instead of a reasonable desire like hiding his identity). But these are enemies who he'll take off his mask off for which puts them at ease the very moment he decides to finally make his move. The "Fear" he inspired served no purpose, being thrown away casually at the important moments and even leading to his enemies hiring more muscle. But no, he wore a mask to inspire fear and not because he's worried about being identified. What kind of b*tch made loser cares about that kind of thing right? He'll also have this so called "expert" make ******* mistakes like hiding from people he should know he can't hide from, or turning fights that should leverage his skill and experience into predictable fights of attrition or some kind of retarded willpower d*ck measuring contest. He'll walk into death traps he's been to before and not bring good holy water(Makes sense if you've read it)... He had money, he knew he needed holy water, and he had means to get holy water. But he won't buy any and will instead complain about not having good holy water. Basically, expect his past experiences to mean nothing and for his supposed wisdom to be nerfed the very moment it's convenient to do so. When he's out doing stuff he'll bump into women in distress without f*cking fail. Whether that be little girls, slave girls, swindlers who's intentions he doesn't know, etc. Doesn't matter what he's doing or where he is, even if he's in the middle of a troll infested forest he'll somehow meet a girl. The author seems to think that by default anything that has breasts is innocent. The mc doesn't give men the benefit of the doubt, he'll just cut your f*cking throat and be done with you. But a girl who's lied and swindled your family before? One who's been thrown in an actual prison for her crimes? This total stranger who just so happens to be a girl? "She just hasn't 'found' herself yet" is what the story will try and tell you lol. And potentially worst of all... Drum roll please... He actually thinks a Ranger class is a Jack of all trades class! Like what the actual f*ck Mr. author? I'm dead serious, the main character is a Ranger and he hasn't so much as looked at a bow and arrow. He instead runs forward and fights his enemies close up like a good little assassin with his twin daggers and various other assassin skills/tactics. And it all makes sense in the authors tiny mind because the Ranger class is a Jack of all trades class! Forget stuff like traps, good long distance eyesight, horse back riding, bow and arrow skills, tracking, etc. A ranger doesn't need those things, and in fact the mc will disdain the very idea, nay, the very concept of learning those skills. He will instead run around acting 100% like an assassin and you're fully expected to believe he's a Ranger. Again, like what the actual f*ck? You played yourself Mr. Author. *Hands over door hinges* P.S. Bonus points for whoever got that last bit :)

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mrpixeltech
mrpixeltechLv13mrpixeltech

As a past-player of Eastern MMOs, there are far more times than I'd care to count that the Rogue class gets lumped together with the Ranger class. Honestly, if you take Tolkien's works into account, it's the Western fantasy market that diverged from the original meaning behind Ranger and not what you've summarized here. So while I definitely can give consent to your other points, Ranger does not equate to bow and arrow by default.

Daoist_Dan
Daoist_DanLv10Daoist_Dan

I'm not sure about that. Maybe the Mandarin language has a world close enough to the word "ranger" that it can be loosely translated into it, but "ranger" IS an English word and it IS English in origin. Apparently as far back as the 14th century. You can''t say the Western market diverged from the words origin when we're talking about translated idea's and concepts. Excepting of course for the situation where a language adopts a word and it's meaning fully, there's no 1 to 1 conversation between two language systems. You could however fault my review's logic and be fully in the right to poke holes in it on the basis of translations having inaccuracies and inconsistencies, how it's not the author being dumb but rather the inevitability of the language and culture barrier. I hadn't considered it from this angle before.

mrpixeltech:As a past-player of Eastern MMOs, there are far more times than I'd care to count that the Rogue class gets lumped together with the Ranger class. Honestly, if you take Tolkien's works into account, it's the Western fantasy market that diverged from the original meaning behind Ranger and not what you've summarized here. So while I definitely can give consent to your other points, Ranger does not equate to bow and arrow by default.
mrpixeltech
mrpixeltechLv13mrpixeltech

I think you misunderstood what I was saying. I wasn't implying ranger originated from Eastern culture. I was stating that the original meaning of Ranger in the English language has slowly transformed over time to become "bows and arrows".

Daoist_Dan:I'm not sure about that. Maybe the Mandarin language has a world close enough to the word "ranger" that it can be loosely translated into it, but "ranger" IS an English word and it IS English in origin. Apparently as far back as the 14th century. You can''t say the Western market diverged from the words origin when we're talking about translated idea's and concepts. Excepting of course for the situation where a language adopts a word and it's meaning fully, there's no 1 to 1 conversation between two language systems. You could however fault my review's logic and be fully in the right to poke holes in it on the basis of translations having inaccuracies and inconsistencies, how it's not the author being dumb but rather the inevitability of the language and culture barrier. I hadn't considered it from this angle before.
Daoist_Dan
Daoist_DanLv10Daoist_Dan

I guess we both misunderstood then. I wasn't speaking from the stand point of rangers being generic bow and arrow users, so I didn't read your reply as such. This then "Honestly, if you take Tolkien's works into account, it's the Western fantasy market that diverged from the original meaning behind Ranger and not what you've summarized here." seemed to imply something beyond the obvious evolution of words and their definitions.

mrpixeltech:I think you misunderstood what I was saying. I wasn't implying ranger originated from Eastern culture. I was stating that the original meaning of Ranger in the English language has slowly transformed over time to become "bows and arrows".
Sirocco
SiroccoLv6Sirocco

I'll be honest with you, I stopped reading your review once I saw how many chapters of it you read. How can you even write a review after reading only 33 chapters? Everyone agrees that the story gets real good past chapter 50! See how I judged your review after only reading a small part of it? You did the same thing for this story. Best regards.

Daoist_Dan
Daoist_DanLv10Daoist_Dan

What, you think the 5 minutes it would've taken to read my review is comparable to the 2-3 hours I spent reading this story? I don't know what makes you think you can tell someone how many chapters they have to read before they're allowed to have an opinion, but you're full of yourself. And don't lie, you didn't comment with your best regards. Just a kid who thinks sarcasm will change anyone's mind. Like the story if you want, but don't be such a p*ssy that you can't handle seeing people disagree.

Sirocco:I'll be honest with you, I stopped reading your review once I saw how many chapters of it you read. How can you even write a review after reading only 33 chapters? Everyone agrees that the story gets real good past chapter 50! See how I judged your review after only reading a small part of it? You did the same thing for this story. Best regards.
Shiraishi
ShiraishiLv5Shiraishi

Sadly, you only read a short amount of chapter that didn't even cover the entirety of the story. So I'm just gonna answer to that Ranger part. In this game, Ranger is a jack-of-all-trade. This story is D&D based. In addition, the ranger is able to be a beast tamer, a ranged attacker, a melee attacker. It also can use magic. This is being a jack of all trades (and before you think "you can specialize in one and then you wouldn't be a jack of all trades") Taking a path would lead to advancing to another class, thus the specialization wouldn't be ranger, but that class in itself. Ranger still being that jack of all trade base class. But ofc you won't know about the advancement until later on.

Sirocco
SiroccoLv6Sirocco

First, I was polite. So you'd better remain polite yourself. Second, I made a point using analogy, which you dismissed without providing any argument. Third, I did not use sarcasm. I gave you the reason why your review is worthless. You can't judge something without at least experiencing "most" of it. Fourth, you don't know me yet treated me as a lying kid. You're obviously the one acting like a kid here. Last but not least, we both know who's the one full of himself and unable to handle disagreement here. Especially after sech a comment full of rudeness, salt, and hearted. I'll leave you now with the company of yourself, knowing fully well how unbearable such prospects might be. Best regards.

Daoist_Dan:What, you think the 5 minutes it would've taken to read my review is comparable to the 2-3 hours I spent reading this story? I don't know what makes you think you can tell someone how many chapters they have to read before they're allowed to have an opinion, but you're full of yourself. And don't lie, you didn't comment with your best regards. Just a kid who thinks sarcasm will change anyone's mind. Like the story if you want, but don't be such a p*ssy that you can't handle seeing people disagree.
Daoist_Dan
Daoist_DanLv10Daoist_Dan

Hush up Sirocco. I've got some apologies to make.

Sirocco:First, I was polite. So you'd better remain polite yourself. Second, I made a point using analogy, which you dismissed without providing any argument. Third, I did not use sarcasm. I gave you the reason why your review is worthless. You can't judge something without at least experiencing "most" of it. Fourth, you don't know me yet treated me as a lying kid. You're obviously the one acting like a kid here. Last but not least, we both know who's the one full of himself and unable to handle disagreement here. Especially after sech a comment full of rudeness, salt, and hearted. I'll leave you now with the company of yourself, knowing fully well how unbearable such prospects might be. Best regards.
Daoist_Dan
Daoist_DanLv10Daoist_Dan

Sorry about that Shiraishi. I need to get better about reading usernames lol. Although it clears up one of my concerns, and as evidenced by the first disagreement I had with mrpixel, I'm not above accepting wrong. But I disagree wholeheartedly if you think I should read more of a story I don't like before sharing opinions. I accepted I had bias, was transparent about how few chapters I'd read, but in no way shape or form was I wrong to share my thoughts. Have a good day, and again I'm sorry about dragging you into an argument.

Shiraishi:Sadly, you only read a short amount of chapter that didn't even cover the entirety of the story. So I'm just gonna answer to that Ranger part. In this game, Ranger is a jack-of-all-trade. This story is D&D based. In addition, the ranger is able to be a beast tamer, a ranged attacker, a melee attacker. It also can use magic. This is being a jack of all trades (and before you think "you can specialize in one and then you wouldn't be a jack of all trades") Taking a path would lead to advancing to another class, thus the specialization wouldn't be ranger, but that class in itself. Ranger still being that jack of all trade base class. But ofc you won't know about the advancement until later on.
Daoist_Dan
Daoist_DanLv10Daoist_Dan

So embarrassing!! I actually replied thinking he was Sirocco!! Thank god for that Delete button :/

Daoist_Dan:Sorry about that Shiraishi. I need to get better about reading usernames lol. Although it clears up one of my concerns, and as evidenced by the first disagreement I had with mrpixel, I'm not above accepting wrong. But I disagree wholeheartedly if you think I should read more of a story I don't like before sharing opinions. I accepted I had bias, was transparent about how few chapters I'd read, but in no way shape or form was I wrong to share my thoughts. Have a good day, and again I'm sorry about dragging you into an argument.
Sirocco
SiroccoLv6Sirocco

It seems that you are unable to understand educated language. I'll lower my level to yours in order to help you understand what happened earlier. Ahum: "get rekt son, you were destroyed by this old man here"

Daoist_Dan:Hush up Sirocco. I've got some apologies to make.
Daoist_Dan
Daoist_DanLv10Daoist_Dan

Just... Yes, you've won. You, my father, totally owned this Junior. Cya later Mr. Bad*ss...

Sirocco:It seems that you are unable to understand educated language. I'll lower my level to yours in order to help you understand what happened earlier. Ahum: "get rekt son, you were destroyed by this old man here"
Sirocco
SiroccoLv6Sirocco

Cya. I don't hate you. I didn't even want to come up as rude on my first comment. I really wanted to tell you to read more of the story because it gets much better later on, in my humble opinion. Sorry that you had to see that side of me. I really mean it this time, best regards.

Daoist_Dan:Just... Yes, you've won. You, my father, totally owned this Junior. Cya later Mr. Bad*ss...
Shiraishi
ShiraishiLv5Shiraishi

np I didn't get to see it. You can share your opinion, sure. But I still suggest to read more as most of what you had issues with is either explained later on, or you missed a sentence. (there is one good and bad point, depending on how you read) There is no filler, and sometimes a ****** sentence can imply a lot. (taking an example of someone's else complaint) There is a group of thieves that Marvin is tasked to kill. The complaint was that Marvin didn't bother checking if these thieves were evil before accepting to kill them. But there is a sentence saying "...due to having various kinds of arrest warrants." meaning they have a bounty on their heads, and you don't get a bounty unless you did questionable things. "The author seems to think that by default anything that has breasts is innocent. The mc doesn't give men the benefit of the doubt, he'll just cut your f*cking throat and be done with you. But a girl who's lied and swindled your family before? One who's been thrown in an actual prison for her crimes? This total stranger who just so happens to be a girl? "She just hasn't 'found' herself yet" is what the story will try and tell you lol" Lola hasn't done anything harmful, she only tried to get some money from him, was punished and locked in a prison and managed to survive among the gnoll, is there a need to kill her? Marvin has no issue killing women who try to harm him or the people close to him, there are cases like that happening later. As for the innocence... You'll be surprised if you read further. The most important thing to keep in mind is that this isn't earth. This is a ruthless do or die D&D world.

Daoist_Dan:Sorry about that Shiraishi. I need to get better about reading usernames lol. Although it clears up one of my concerns, and as evidenced by the first disagreement I had with mrpixel, I'm not above accepting wrong. But I disagree wholeheartedly if you think I should read more of a story I don't like before sharing opinions. I accepted I had bias, was transparent about how few chapters I'd read, but in no way shape or form was I wrong to share my thoughts. Have a good day, and again I'm sorry about dragging you into an argument.
Charizma
CharizmaLv6Charizma

I agree with most of this review. Exclusions being the Ranger issue, and partially the not killing girls issue. One thing it missed is that everything I've read has been very predictable. The rest is quite accurate. As for those saying the reviewer shouldn't give review after 33 chapters, that is nonsense. In many novels you would be correct, but those novels are ones that don't have obvious plot holes and character defects right away. Most authors can avoid such issues within 33 chapters, this one did not. Most of the issues the reviewer stated(meeting and trusting damsels repeatedly, not using his experience to cause conflicts, half-assed antihero...) are all quite obvious within those 33 chapters, and the reader has no reason to believe those will go away. So why would he continue reading it? As for reviewing, people who consider reading this will be better off knowing that there are issues right off the bat and they can read other reviews to know if it gets better.

muffinos
muffinosLv4muffinos

I agree whit u about being to comment when reading 33 chapters i actually like to comment 50 chapters per comment then base how it will progress and u also get to see the translation quality that is what i think pepole should try out for all parts he did do an amazing job whit the translations doe

Charizma:I agree with most of this review. Exclusions being the Ranger issue, and partially the not killing girls issue. One thing it missed is that everything I've read has been very predictable. The rest is quite accurate. As for those saying the reviewer shouldn't give review after 33 chapters, that is nonsense. In many novels you would be correct, but those novels are ones that don't have obvious plot holes and character defects right away. Most authors can avoid such issues within 33 chapters, this one did not. Most of the issues the reviewer stated(meeting and trusting damsels repeatedly, not using his experience to cause conflicts, half-assed antihero...) are all quite obvious within those 33 chapters, and the reader has no reason to believe those will go away. So why would he continue reading it? As for reviewing, people who consider reading this will be better off knowing that there are issues right off the bat and they can read other reviews to know if it gets better.
muffinos
muffinosLv4muffinos

Oh yeah one more thing even if u critize u gotta tell the Translator what he did wrong and how he can avoid it next time for a smoother reading section (I dont like spoiling but things can get a bit more fun when he teams up whit ledgends)

Charizma:I agree with most of this review. Exclusions being the Ranger issue, and partially the not killing girls issue. One thing it missed is that everything I've read has been very predictable. The rest is quite accurate. As for those saying the reviewer shouldn't give review after 33 chapters, that is nonsense. In many novels you would be correct, but those novels are ones that don't have obvious plot holes and character defects right away. Most authors can avoid such issues within 33 chapters, this one did not. Most of the issues the reviewer stated(meeting and trusting damsels repeatedly, not using his experience to cause conflicts, half-assed antihero...) are all quite obvious within those 33 chapters, and the reader has no reason to believe those will go away. So why would he continue reading it? As for reviewing, people who consider reading this will be better off knowing that there are issues right off the bat and they can read other reviews to know if it gets better.
Charizma
CharizmaLv6Charizma

Agreed. You should tell the author what he did wrong. Hopefully it will create better novels in the future. Though I think the argument in this thread was that he didn’t tell the author how to fix it. Translator did do well. Hope he gets a hold of a novel I like in the future!

muffinos:Oh yeah one more thing even if u critize u gotta tell the Translator what he did wrong and how he can avoid it next time for a smoother reading section (I dont like spoiling but things can get a bit more fun when he teams up whit ledgends)
muffinos
muffinosLv4muffinos

Agreed

Charizma:Agreed. You should tell the author what he did wrong. Hopefully it will create better novels in the future. Though I think the argument in this thread was that he didn’t tell the author how to fix it. Translator did do well. Hope he gets a hold of a novel I like in the future!