Review Detail of Space_Fox in Mages Are Too OP

I'm fully aware that this review was written before the chapter I'm about to mention was posted, but the reason that the players are the way that they are is because the company that released the game is working together with the government to make sure that proper evaluations are completed before someone can recieve the virtual cabin. I can understand why you'd think the whole "nice players" thing is an issue, but it makes sense for governments to get involved. This is a technology that we have already seen improve the real-life combat capabilities of many of its players, meaning easily-applicable military use, as well as offering time dilation (so, so many uses for something like that), it only makes sense that governments would do whatever they could to get on the good side of a company that can produce such things. Additionally, the MC is not, in fact, a "save-everyone" type of MC. He is a kind person who is willing to help someone in need if he sees what is happening and is capable of doing so. That just means he's got basic human morality, yes? In fact, he has a friend (Betta) who IS that kind of person, and the MC explains to them why that's a horrible idea, because that kind of person will get exploited for their kindness. Not only that, but that chapter was still available in the trial read, so there's no excuse to complain about it while saying "oh, it wasn't released yet, so I had no way of knowing that while writing the review" and the like. You have to understand that these sorts of things almost always are adressed in good stories (and this is clearly a good story from the quality of writing), it just doesn't always happen immediately. Complaining about MC's character without giving him the chance to undergo growth is pretty dumb, if you ask me. (By the way, I don't mean to sound offensive, so sorry if I came off as angry or mean, it just kinda bugs me when people criticize this sort of thing without giving the story a chance to address those issues)

Although I agree with you it can also be annoying when people criticize other people for getting mad at characters that they don't like just because he/she changes later on in the book or for it to be addressed later on in the book not everybody wants to wait halfway through the book for the problem to be addressed That's the problem with character development not everybody wants to wait for that character to develop

I dont like reading a story with the small hope that the MC may change later, which rarely happen. Also, while it's true that proper evaluation have been made, it's still unrealisic. Even today you can see the kind of people that are in power are not exactly good people, and even if there was an evaluation it's impossible that everyone is still good and not one bad or selfish person got in. Even the governement is going to do errors. Moreover they cant evaluate every person singularly, it's impossble. Some bad people are bound to be in. And being selfish doesnt mean being bad. A person can be a good guy while prioritizing himself over others, there is nothing wrong with that. Even if the MC is not the type to save everyone, he is still very close to it. People have morality and ethics, but people are also more than just good and/or bad. Everyone is at least a bit selfish, and some more than others. Someone isn't just black or white. Being selfish is not being unmoral, those are two different things. Would I be a bad person if I chose to not risk my life to save a child even if I have only a 5% chance of dying? No, because I value my life more and there is nothing wrong with that. Can you consider me selfish for prioritizing myself over his life? Yes. Am I unmoral or unethical? No.

Also, let's not forget that those are not even real people but NPCs, doesnt matter how realistic they are, they are NPCs

First of all, regarding your point for the evaluations: There are a few problems with your response. For one, you're working under the assumption that they're using current modern methods to do this stuff, when this is clearly a much more technologically advanced Earth than we have right now, as well as functioning differently (tiered cities and the like). Secondly, so what if someone got through the cracks? Does this mean that just because someone from the government might have ****ed up on letting someone bad into the game, then all of the characters MUST be evil? At least the majority would still be good. Next, as for what you said about the MC being still too nice, so what? Is the MAIN CHARACTER not allowed to be on the good spectrum? He's nice, not self-sacrificing. The reason he comes off as a goody-two-shoes here is because he doesn't need to fear death, being a player and all. He can take the risk to save the girl because he won't be particularly harmed if he fails, whereas having Betta stay with that family would be dumb because it would inhibit him regardless. He's nice, not a saint. And that's not even mentioning the fact that you didn't even finish the trial read before writing a review, considering several of your issues are addressed in the chapters you HAD ACCESS TO.

it is later revealed that the government did a background check on all of them. some may have hidden tendencies... but most are fine.

he's not all that nice too. he's just not a psychopathic murderer. most games you play for fun. not just for the grind. I'm one of those that do everything to get the best ending in a video game.

I read up to the 490th chapter in mtl and later in the story there was a batch of players that did the scumbag stuff that you described and they got punished for it(won't spoil too much). The mc himself behaves juat like a normal good person that doesn't let others take advantage of themselve. And as the people mentioned above the government really did screen the player's records, considering the population of China the probability of finding nice people is pretty high.

Are you sure they are NPCs tho? So far it does seem to me that it might not be the case :D I haven't read the MTL or anything but I wouldn't be half surprised if they find out they are actually been teleported to some other world while sleeping

In terms of how kind the MC is, I can't say I'm like that or that I personally know someone who is but that doesn't mean there aren't any, especially among gamers. There are tons of people out there who make guides, mods, tools/programs, walkthroughs and wikis for games unprompted and unpaid, in the case of the Skyrim modding community a lot of them refuse to monetize their mods even when they easily could. As for going full on murderhobo, I can't say I'd want to do that in a VRMMO as described in this novel, it just seems like violence for violence's sake. I recommend looking up "the uncanny valley" sometime, in short it refers to how the more human something looks the more we like it, up to a certain point when it becomes creepy and if it become even more human-like it becomes basically fully human. The NPCs are described as looking, acting, thinking and feeling like a real human, for all intents and purposes they are human. A hero who saves everyone can certainly be very boring if done wrong, if done right it can become a Paragon which is my favorite type of MC. The most famous example of a paragon is probably Superman, now quick question which is the best Superman? Wrong, it's All Might. Batman is also a paragon, and so are a lot of other uber popular characters, a paragon done right is fantastic. Went a bit off on a tangent, in short don't give up on heroic MCs and you're right, he's shaping up to be a hero-saves-everyone type, kinda boring. As for that last bit, appearently he either skimmed over it or didn't read far enough but it's mentioned the game designers are working with/for the government and only those who passed a rudimentary background check(criminal history i believe?) could play the game, and no one under 18 could play either. Now, it was just a rudimentary check so of course some bad apples slipped through but I'd believe they would be an extremely small minority, and it's severely limited what sort of damage they could do. In Praise The Orc I believe they used the "concrete method" where they placed the player in a barrel and filled it with concrete and stored them in a basement, can't say I expect them to do the same but there are tons of way to screw over a player even if you can't kill them. This became way longer than I thought it would, so in case you don't wanna read my huge block of text here's the cliffnotes 1. Skyrim mods. 2. NPCs are human-like enough to classify as human. 3. All Might. Give up, I've got god and anime on my side. 4. I destroyed you with facts and logic, now go read PTO or something.

Another guys who reviews a novel without even giving it a chance. A lot of wrong information due to not reading enough chapters. If you don't like the earlier chapter and would not like to continue, please do not leave a review like some sort of proffesional expert know it all when you clearly understand nothing in the story

So i guess ill give u a couple of notes then as well. 1. Ppl hack games all the time, they clearly dont have "good" intentions, so even if there are ppl who dont monetize their mods, there is another spectrum. 2. If he doesnt which to see the npcs as ppl, who are u to tell him he is wrong, they arent ppl, they act super close to ppl, but thats like me saying siri is a person cause she can now sound like one. 3. Almight is a paragon who supports allowing ppl like endeavor(or who ever the number 2 hero was) who abused his wife and child to be a hero out on yhe streets and not in jail. Batman allows the Joker to continuously be out og the streets, while never actually fixing gotham. 4. Ur using facts that are biased towards ur perspective. Do consider that

I dont belive the government can accurately label good or evil in any time period. To the government good is someone who doesnt disagree with them. So regardless of their technological innovations that wont change. Unless its a dyatopian society where ppl are brain washed to view things a certain way, this wont happen. And majority of ppl are selfish towards their own perspective of good or evil. Good and evil are opinions based on ones ethics and morals. U chose to view some ppl as good and others as evil. The guy never said there iant anything wrong with a good mc, he just doesn't prefer it. And the mc is a "saint", he literally says he is good and all evil must die. He sita on a morally high ground through out the book a great percentage of the time.

Playing devil's advocate is fun. 1. People also cheat lie, cheat and steal, then considering what they did to be a "good" thing. No one is out there against you, they do what they do for themselves, in other words their intent isn't to ruin things for you, it's to have fun or earn something. Didn't care when i saw the video so I can't remember perfectly, but bear with me. In an interview or something Cardi B admits she used to be a prostitute or stripper who used to drug clients and steal from them to pay for time in a studio so she could make her album, in the interview she's not even a little sorry for what she did because it let her achieve her dream. 2. Well who are you to say they aren't human? Siri might be the closest we have to an AI at the moment, that's still comparing apples and oranges. The AI in question live in a simulated virtual reality, simulated as in it mimics the real world and virtual as in inside a computer. Now, the reason i broke it down is to focus on the two aspects of the world they live in, in their simulated world they look like humans, to the point they're anatomically correct inside and out, they think they are human, have human emotions and to them their world is every bit as real as our world is to us, including the finality of death. In summary, they're flesh and blood humans who act, think and feel human who die if they're killed, sounds pretty human in my opinion. Now onto the virtual aspect, they aren't "real", they're a bunch of 1's and 0's, but who's to say they have to be that way? I can't remember if it's explained how the VR functions, but usually VR is explained as a machine that interprets signals in the brain and stimulate the nerves that give us our senses to show the virtual reality you're in, that when you "see" something in the game it's because the machine stimulates your optical nerve to show you whatever you're seeing. So, if this is how VR works in the novel it might be a bit of a leap but reversing the process shouldn't be outside the bounds of possibility, as in making the 1's and 0's that make up an AI into memories then "download" them into a brain shouldn't be outiside the realms of possibility with such VR technology. 3. Yup, part of what makes a paragon so great is their seemingly naive optimism that believes in the good in everyone, and he wasn't wrong about Endeavor, he did a lot of ****ed up things but his redemption arc is giving him the character growth he needs to be the new number 1 hero. As for Batman, sticking to one's ideals even when they get in the way is part of what makes a paragon great. 4. Of course I do, am I supposed to be some omniscient schizophrenic who knows everything and argues every side of the argument? I regurgitate the **** I know and argue from the perspective I see things, like you. Also, sorry about 2., I got way too into the NPC part so I understand if it's too long and you can't be bothered to read it, tl;dr I argue some **** and I'm right. ;p

1. That doesnt mean it is "good" though? Ppl dont view cardi b's actions as good (tbh there are ppl who do), so it can still be seen as good or bad regardless of such. And there are tons of people who do "bad" things with "good" intent, like that white guy who killed the black people in thr church bc he believed that the ppl in the church's race was ruining his country. Is it "good" since he viewed it as such?He thought it was "good", but it was viewd as "bad" by the public. Idk "good" and "bad" is subjective. But there are ppl who hack with malicious intent regardless of how opinionated good and bad are. So.....? 2. It also doesnt matter how much u act like an intelligent being, u can still regard the person as not human, and by ur logic it isnt a bad thing to do since that person could care less. Like cardi b right? In that scenario it isnt "bad" that men are treated like less than human since it didnt matter to the criminal. Ig u can apply that to southern slaves owners since they didnt view the slaves as humans before either, and since they didnt see it as "bad" is it "good,?🤔 3. No redemption arc can make up for the fautly GOVERNMENT. I could care less about what endeavor did, if he was done his due process. But he wasnt, and almight didnt care. He wanted somone who abused his family to "save" people. Does that sound like a hero, no, its sounds like u want a criminal to do "crime fighting". I dont need a redemtion arc, i need the government to show accountabilty to criminal heros, endeavor should be in jail not free regardless of a bs redemtion. Bc uk what that means, i could be a hero, as as long as i save a couple of people ever so often, i can do whatever i want. And the government wont do a thing. And almight supports that. Because kf the number 2 hero, with all his public attention is that bad, imagine how those who dont get public scrutiny are. Its not even a good secret, as long as anyone looks at hia son they would know something is up. How would a son of a hero have such a burn that his face got burned. Oh wait his father can control fire? Hmmm, but the kid can too, what his own fire shouldnt necissarily hurt him, so... Either a massive attack or something else, wait nothing on thr news says he got attacked, gas explosion, mans cant even stop some fire? Wait no one in his family likes the father, ik whats going on ... And the government could care less. And almight supports that. And the state of gotham being as poor as it is has nothing to so with his principles. Batman could easily do a massive wipe of the city, and fix public infrastructure without killing anybody. It fits hia principles, but he doesnt. Instead he masquerades as a hero, doesnt sounds like a paragon to me, sounds like a man with a superiority complex who likes to control things, ans use the word "good" to do so. These ppl arent paragon my friends, they are just as twisted as those they are fighting. 4. I never asked for u so play both sides, what im saying is ur evidence is selective, and doesnt hold up agaisnt intenst scrutiny. Sounds like how anti vaxxers bring up that one thing with mercury and autism. Only looking at something at face value.

Now we're leaving the novel completely, but I'm game :D 1. The point I was making was the intent, people never set out to ruin someone else's day, they do what they do to further their own agenda, to make their life easier, to have fun or to satisfy their needs. What I'm getting at is that good and bad isn't subjective, it doesn't exist at all. 2. That's humanizing and dehumanizing, to ascribe and deny human qualities in objects and other people, which has little to do with the argument of what it means to be human. People do this all the time to everything around them, they call their dogs their fur babies and ascribe human emotions to a creature with a much less evolved brain that might not be able to process the emotion. As for dehumanzing, there are 2 different reasons for dehumanizing, namely as a person and as part of a group. As a person we usually dehumanize others to escape guilty feelings and cognitive dissonance as in the example of Cardi B. As a group it's for power and because of group mentality. One of most important things in human psychology is group mentality "us and them", by emphasizing differences governments can divide and conquer their citizens and make them do what they say. To tie it all together, let's use "First they came". First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a socialist. Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a trade unionist. Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Jew. Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me. There's 2 sides to "First they came", "I" and "they", "I" is a person and "they" is a group. Nazi propaganda emphasized group mentality and dehumanizing the groups they wanted to get rid because when they started killing those groups, the people who didn't belong to that group started to believe the dehumanizing propaganda to escape their guilt and the cognitive dissonance they felt. I hoped you understand where I'm going with this because it's getting late and I'm gonna start drinking now, probably going to get a bit less coherent after a while. 3. His name is Almight, not Alsight. His power is superhuman strength, not omniscience. He can't be everywhere, doesn't know everything and he isn't perfect, it's because he couldn't save Tomura that he became the BBEG, and while he's the only one we know about, there's bound to have been dozens, or hundreds of other kids who saw Almight on TV and called out for him to save them, only to die miserably. As for the government, they're doing what they can with what they have. Now on to Endeavor, considering his family seems to be moving towards forgiving him, I'll forgive him. As for a criminal fighting crime, it's hard to decide because it can be viewed from so many perspectives and none are 100% just. Which is why I'll say it's best to be pragmatic, if it's best for society to have him behind bars then that's where he should go, if him being behind bars makes the streets a more dangerous place I'd want him fighting crime. 4. Of course my evidence is selective, I was disagreeing with the review. My original post can be summarized as 1. There's also good people. 2. In this specific scenario, the AI are basically human. 3. Goody two shoes heroes can be interesting. 4. I brought up it was mentioned in the novel that the company/country behind the game had made an effort so only good people could play the game. I mentioned both sides plenty, any more and I'd be arguing with myself. Can we drop this 4th part? It's bound to get personal if we keep going and I don't want to fight plus the others aren't about the novel anymore.

dick riding much..

i mean if your read the novel properly enough you would know that the world isn't actually just a game, and there have been multiple, quite noticeable hints that it's actually an isekai, but go off i guess

My man that's like saying you would go rob a bank and shoot every one of the hostages to get the police to let you go....(SPOILER alert) IT"S FCKED UP

The thing is. Is that the MC wasn't overly kind he just had basic morality