You need to read the last 10 chapters if you think she’s not manipulating him. She has manipulated his entire life for years, if you think she isn’t manipulating this to get the outcome she wants you’re delusional

She is literally just saying that to manipulate him, there’s no reason he can’t be friends with them just because he chooses to break his forced slavery. She said that the Mad Prince and Torment planned this so he could be free and no one would have to get hurt, stop deluding yourself. I’m not even going to acknowledge your first point because I’ve already demonstrated how that would’ve never been a possibility repeatedly and you refuse to read.

He would not have been in the center if he had gone during the second campaign with Effie, Kai, and Nephis. Or do you think they wouldn’t have gone to the center if they could? Cassie manipulated him into going during the first campaign so he would be there. You just refuse to acknowledge any possibility of your precious bean Cassie knowingly causing him pain

Youre delusional, he wouldn’t have gone to save Obel because he wouldn’t have been in Antarctica at the time of that mission! Stop ignoring the part where she manipulated him into leaving early, it’s been pointed out in the story already. Also, what you think the cohort and Nephis would encourage him to stay a slave when he doesn’t have to? You’re insane!

I didn’t say he wouldn’t have gone to Antarctica, I said he wouldn’t have gone on the first expedition and he wouldn’t have been in that sector. We already know she sped up everything involving him by several months and manipulated him into making that choice early. You and everyone else just refuse to see her cruelty because you’ve spent so long feeling sorry for her and meat riding that you refuse to believe you felt that way for a manipulative sociopath. Why do you think she isolated him for this conversation? It’s so she could guilt him into staying a slave! If the cohort had been there and known the truth they would have encouraged him to go free himself, but she’s saying that by doing this he’ll lose his friends. She just wants him to “choose” being a slave so she can shirk off any blame or guilt she feels about it

When they realized staying was 100% death they tried to go, but they weren’t willing to force others to die in their place by forcing them to give spots that already belonged to someone else. Even if they were willing to die Sunny could’ve at least tried to convince them or trick them into leaving to fight and save more people later. Not to mention, if Sunny hadn’t left with the first expedition which Cassie manipulated him into doing, he never even would’ve been in that sector or met that cohort.

Sunny’s cohort chose to stay since they would’ve had to force other people to give up their spots if they wanted to get on the boat. They got as many people on the boat as possible without having to sacrifice anyone else. They very much could have gotten on an earlier boat with no issues, Sunny could’ve told them they had an important mission or something.

I highly doubt it would be more than a small pull on the strings of fate for her to save a cohort of awakened. She could have easily told Sunny that he should get them on a boat sooner or just warned him that they would definitely die so he could try to do something. It seems like an odd coincidence that one of the only members that survived from that cohort was the one Cassie could use in her spy department. It’s one thing to not be responsible for saving every single person that you know is gonna die, it’s another thing entirely to choose not to give a single word of warning or advice to a supposed friend who’s going to lose several people that are close to him and he’s responsible for. That, like everything else she did, was a calculated choice to push towards this point and manipulate his choice. The fresh loss in his mind makes it more difficult to make the choice that she says will make him lose his remaining friends.

It’s not the same though. Her choice was which of my friends do I want to suffer and maybe die. She made that choice for them without consulting either. She forced a choice on him of whether he wants to be free or allow himself to be manipulated, she’s been mentally and emotionally manipulating his decision during this conversation and for a long time before it. Even the way she framed it is a manipulation, she gave it to him as two options either you remain a slave and keep your friends or free yourself and lose all your friends, she didn’t even let him think there might be the option of freeing himself and staying friends. Why would his friends leave him because he frees himself? Why would he lose the right to be friends with them if he frees himself?

I read the chapter before this, it doesn’t change anything. She played god *again* by choosing who would live and die when she released Mordret from his prison early. That’s assuming that his escape was inevitable and he would’ve killed that many people regardless, if it wasn’t she killed hundreds for her own gain. All the people that Mordret killed after she released him are on her too

Even if you guys want to forgive and forget for the countless people she’s sacrificed or literally enslaving him, which she hasn’t earned. You cannot deny that she’s manipulated even his feelings and emotions regarding this “choice” that she “gave” him. Making him lose his cohort in the Antarctic so he has fresh in his mind the pain of loss. Splitting his soul apart and giving endless inescapable voice and presence to his inner demons. Whether the sin of solace was needed at all is debatable considering that she managed to escape the loops herself without it, but even if it was needed she could’ve taken on that burden herself instead of forcing it on him.

Trust… right… who could ever possibly trust you again after everything you’ve done? You’re a monster, you’ve sacrificed hundreds if not thousands to your selfish desire to control everything just so you can feel like you’re free of your guilt, but your actions now don’t change anything you’ve done in the past they don’t make up for it. Enslaving someone for years and manipulating their lives isn’t just gone because you give them the “choice” to take off their chains. I wouldn’t even be able to be sure that the choice is mine at that point because she would have been manipulating my mind so much up to then.

Yesss! I called it!

Defiled Sybil is Torment?

They destroyed it, that’s what they were talking about with the scale

And yet Effie will still be able to make fun of his height once she gets her saint transformation

Iirc she only has actual immunity to soul attacks, but really high resistance to mental attacks. Not positive tho. Should still be good enough since they’re both at the corrupted/saint level

The titan that holds up the sky in Greek mythology

Can’t you see her core? Is it corrupted?

I’m positive, it even brings it up in the very next chapter