Heavenly Silkworm Potato
The disciples are at peak nirvana stage but elders are only at mysterious life realm? Only one realm between disciples and elders??!!!
The moment a disciple reaches the 9th stage, they can stop being a disciple and become a deacon. They just aren't doing so since they don't care and know they'll become an elder sooner than later And elder is obviously someone at the life stage and a super elder (don't have a better term for it yet) is someone who's at the death stage